Ide habitats
Ide belongs to the carp family. But in terms of its taste preferences, it is a more versatile fish. Since he can eat both plant and animal food. In its search, the ide moves much more actively throughout the reservoir. This makes catching it interesting, regardless of the fact that it is almost always inferior to carp in weight and size.
It can be found on rifts, in deep holes, in places near bridges and dams where there are whirlpools. The ide can go out in search of food in shallow water. Especially in places where streams and rivers flow into the main channel.
In the autumn months, the ide goes to greater depths. To those places where there are artificial and natural shelters at the bottom. But in warm and windless weather it comes out to feed in shallow water. Where whitebait, small frogs and other food are found in abundance.
Ide does not like open places and where there is at least some shelter in the form of bushes or shade from trees growing on the shore. Or fallen leaves on the water - that’s where ide will most likely appear.
Ide in September
How to catch ide in September
In central Russia, leaf fall begins, the water temperature drops, and it becomes cold in the morning and at night.
Leaves from the trees begin to fall. They cover some quiet river backwaters with a dense layer. The roach loves to stand under such cover, especially if located in the shade of trees hanging over the water. Here it is caught vertically with long summer fishing rods equipped with a jig and a nod, or with a float rod. Fishing for ide in September using slowly sinking bait can be very successful. To do this, when fishing on a float rod with an attachment for a subleaf worm, a bunch of maggots, or a bunch of bloodworms, the sinker is removed or pulled up to the float. The slowly sinking bait reminds the fish of its natural food. When using jigs, they use lightweight types, sometimes very small.
In my practice, when catching roaches in the fall under overhanging bushes, a light jig of the “ant” type with the addition of a large forest ant has proven itself well. Here it should be noted that when collecting these insects useful to the forest, the fisherman should not destroy anthills. In autumn, when large ide almost never leaves deep places, fishing with a running donkey is possible. This type of gear is especially common among fishermen in the upper and middle reaches of the Volga. In another way it is also called “ball”. This is a wire rod without a float, but it has some special features. It is convenient to fish with an uneven bottom where there are rocks and ledges.
Usually caught from an anchored boat. The sinker is lowered to the bottom, and the rod is tilted towards the surface of the water. Then the line is allowed to leave the reel, while forcing the sinker to jump downstream. The nozzle, fluttering, is gradually located in front of the sinker. The wiring distance is up to 20-40 m. The arc wiring option is often used. This is possible if the cast is made at an angle of 50-60 degrees to the river flow. They can fish from the shore in a similar way, provided they use a longer rod.
There is another version of the wire bottom fishing rod - “Florentina” or “whatnot”. It was named after the place of invention - Florence. It is convenient to fish areas in different water horizons, above a snagged or rock-filled bottom. This is achieved by means of a small ring, to which a meter-long leash (0.17-0.2 mm) with a hook (No. 5-7) is attached. Under the influence of the current, the ring moves up and down freely along the main line and moves the hook vertically in the water. The rod is taken rigid (1.5-2.5 m). A small reel with a supply of fishing line of 15-25 m is attached to it, to the end of which a flat stopper weight weighing 60-70 g is tied. With such tackle it is convenient to fish from a boat, piers, low bridges, and sometimes from the steep banks of deep rivers.
Method of catching ide
The sinker is placed motionless on the bottom. The ring with the leash, under the influence of its own gravity, slides down the vertically stretched fishing line, dragging the hook with the bait along with it. By lowering the rod to the water, the angler loosens the line. A stream of water bends it into an arc, and the ring is picked up by the current and moves along the curved line forward and upward, moving the bait to the “new floor”. The range and “level” of bait release is regulated by the rotation speed of the reel and the tilt of the rod. Bites are detected by twitching of the fishing line or vibration of the rod tip.
Where to catch ide in September
In deep places of lakes, reservoirs and rivers, among flooded stumps and bushes, large ide are caught from a boat using wire, float and bottom fishing rods. Bait - minnow, frog, toothless, leech, crayfish meat. In warm, windless weather, it can also be caught at shallower depths: near the mouths of streams, rivers, near thickets of aquatic vegetation, where there are a lot of fry, small frogs or other natural food for it. In such places it is profitable to fish with a spinning rod, a fly rod, or float rods.
After floods, ide can approach dams, where, during the period of opening the sluices, a lot of weakened fish accumulate; then it is caught with a small fish using a fishing rod. In September, in the basins of the Dniester, Southern Bug, Don, Kuban, and on the rivers and lakes of the Caspian Lowland, summer fishing on the top of the water is still in full swing, preferably with a flying insect. Fishing methods such as fly fishing, drag fishing, swim fishing, fly fishing, etc. may be used.
Fly-dipping fishing
“Dipping a fly” is a very exciting and productive activity when ide is found in places with relatively clear water. The tackle is simple. A 2-2.5 meter fishing line and a No. 5 hook are tied to a long rod. A small sinker is attached near the hook so that it tensions the fishing line and can drown the fly. She is held above the water and made to jump, slide, sink, float and fly. It is good to fish this way on small deep rivers. Places are chosen near sedge, reeds, water lilies and other aquatic vegetation located in close proximity to the river bed.
Fishing gear
Fishing for ide in the fall is promising and interesting. Including the fact that completely different gear and fishing methods can be used. A float rod, bottom tackle and spinning rod are all suitable for catching ide.
It is better to choose a float rod of 7-9 meters in length with a “blind” equipment, since with such dimensions the reel will only get in the way. As the main fishing line, it is optimal to choose a diameter of 0.14-0.16 mm; more is not necessary, since a thicker fishing line will sink slowly. Hooks are selected according to the nozzle. The main thing is that they are strong, since the ide fish is very strong. For leashes, you can use a fishing line of 0.12-0.13 mm.
A pear-shaped or spherical float must have sufficient length with the keel. 20-25 cm are best. Sinkers are selected under the float and distributed along the fishing line.
For feeder fishing, basically any rod for this type of fishing is suitable. Main line 0.25-0.35 mm, leads 0.20-0.25 mm. The feeder is selected according to the strength of the current. But it should be borne in mind that ide does not like fast flows. Therefore, it is better to use light feeders.
The tackle is made standard - a symmetrical loop. It is better to attach it to the main line with a reliable fastener with a swivel.
The hooks used are similar to those used for float fishing, depending on the bait, their size is No. 6-10.
Catching ide in the fall with a spinning rod will require a reliable light rod with a weight of 2 to 15 grams. 2-2.5 meters long with fast or medium-fast action. Fishing line should not be used thicker than 0.2 mm. Accordingly, a reel with a spool of size 2000-2500 will be just right.
A braided cord for catching ide is desirable. Since it is quite difficult to feel the ide bite. He takes the prey carefully.
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Catching ide in autumn: Features of catching ide in October and November
Large ide in lakes and reservoirs in the fall is found at great depths, as well as near flooded islands with bushes, where there are stumps or snags. They catch ide from a boat using a live bait rod while drifting or from the bottom. The bait used is a frog or a live bait familiar to this body of water.
The ide reaches shallower depths in calm, warm weather. Then they look for it near the mouths of rivers, streams, thickets of aquatic vegetation, and also where there are a lot of small frogs, fry and other natural food. In such places, fishing with a whipping rod without a float is well suited, with which you can throw live bait to the ulcer shelter. A match fishing rod can also be catchy, allowing you to make long-range targeted casts. Spinning fishing is done using small rotating spoons, mini-wobblers, twisters and vibrating tails, which well imitate forage fish or frogs.
After the end of heavy autumn rains, ide often approaches the dams, where small, weakened fish accumulate during the opening of the sluices. Here it is best to fish with a fishing rod using live bait or fry, releasing it near the bottom.
In autumn, there is a strong temperature difference in the morning and at night. At this time, roaches like to stay under the cover of leaves that have fallen on the water. Having found such a quiet backwater, you can catch it vertically with a long summer fishing rod with a jig and a nod or a jig with a float. It is very good to use slow-sinking bait. In this case, the sinker must be removed or pulled up to the float. A brush of maggots, bloodworms or worms on a hook, plunging, resemble natural food, which attracts ide. When using such tackle, I usually took lightweight or small jigs with hook No. 12–13, which had a long shank. The “ant”, “uralka”, and “button” jigs with bark beetle larvae have proven themselves well.
Autumn ide can attack some aquatic larvae, which are still found on the roots and stems of plants. For roaches when fishing with a wire or a summer jig, baits such as dragonfly larva and amphipod are well suited.
In the fall, I had the opportunity to catch roaches in a line on shallow forest rivers. So, in the upper reaches of the Ugra, he sometimes waded onto some sandbank, washed out in the middle of the channel, and calmly fished both the left and right banks, releasing the equipment quite far. Thus, he reached the most catchy places. At the same time, the fish did not get scared and did not leave their usual habitats. Sometimes ides and roaches stood right next to the shore and in its washouts. In some rivers, during the autumn thaw, you can still fish well near riffles, near flooded snags and piles, and with the water warming up at a relatively shallow depth.
Catching ide in autumn on donka
Catching ide in October with a bottom fishing rod can give good results. Since the water becomes more transparent with the autumn cooling, the tackle will have to be cast as far from the shore as possible so that the fish does not notice the presence of the angler. In addition, the depth at the fishing site should not be more than 2 meters. The tackle is mounted as a “symmetrical loop”. Leashes should be longer and thinner. The ide is considered a very shy fish, especially in clear water, so it is better if nothing alarms it.
Since the favorite places for ide at this time are areas with slow currents, it is advisable to choose a lighter feeder for catching ide in October. And ideally, a feeder for catching ide in October should roll slowly along a flat bottom until it hits some obstacle or falls into a hole. This way she can camouflage herself at the bottom.
The clearer the water in a reservoir becomes, the more delicate the gear for catching ide in October should be. From mid-October, shock leaders with a diameter of about 0.25-0.33 mm made of fluorocarbon fishing line, 1-3 meters long, are placed on bottom fishing rods. We must not forget that the quality of the fishing tackle will directly determine the outcome of the fishing trip. Thin, cheap fishing line most likely will not be able to withstand the heaps of large ide. But catching such a specimen evokes the most pleasant sensations at any time of the year.
Catching ide in autumn with a floatless fishing rod
Catching ide with a Florentine rod or whatnot
Lure
Ide belongs to the carp family. And all fishermen know the ability of these fish to feed endlessly. Therefore, bait for ide in the fall is not only needed, but also necessary. A lazy and wealthy fisherman can use ready-made bait bought in a store. But if you wish, you can cook it yourself.
Groundbait in the form of finely ground macadamia works well. Mixed with clay and rolled into balls. Once in the water , the clay will gradually erode. From the crown there will be a fragrant trail that will definitely attract the ide. They throw such balls directly in front of them at the fishing spot, placing them in one line.
for making other baits include pea flour, toasted bran, mixed feed, ground crackers, dried mayfly, fried and crushed seeds, maggots, bloodworms, chopped worms, semolina. Flour, eggs, clay, and filamentous algae are used as binding components.
You can add some aromatic additives : thyme, peppermint oil, peppermint, orange peels, lemon balm, formic acid. The available ingredients are mixed and rolled into balls or placed in a feeder when fishing on a feeder.
Each region has its own recipes for preparing bait, based on the experience of fishermen, so you should trust them.
Bait
As the season changes, ide also changes its taste preferences. With the arrival of autumn, it often goes out into shallow water to feed on living creatures, so it is best to use animal food as bait: maggots, bloodworms, live bait. It is noteworthy that ide does not bite on fry of ruffe, perch and goby, so it is better to use another fish caught in the same reservoir.
Fishing with a leech gives very good results , although it can be difficult to catch it in late autumn. It is better not to use worms in the fall, since in shallow water they will be actively nibbled by small fish, interfering with the fishing process.
Among vegetable attachments, steamed peas rightfully occupy the first place. He bites on it in any season and in any conditions. When preparing peas for fishing, you need to make sure that their skin remains intact, so they will sit more firmly on the hook.
Sandwich-shaped baits perform very well. When several baits are combined on one hook. For example, maggots with peas, or bloodworms with maggots.
Which combination will work is a matter of experiment, because the best bait for ide in the fall is the one that you find on your own while fishing.
Features of spinning fishing
When fishing for ide with a spinning rod, there is a significant difference between catching river and lake fish. A novice angler should take these features into account.
Lake fishing
A distinctive feature of the red-finned beauties that live in stagnant bodies of water is their solitary lifestyle. If small roaches prefer to be in flocks, then large individuals hunt alone. Coastal lines where there are water lilies become interesting places for fishing in lakes. Small leeches live under their leaves, which the ide readily eats. If you pay attention, you can hear the fish sucking up leeches, making peculiar sounds. That is why bait should be placed as close as possible to aquatic plants, from the shade of which trophy ide can attack.
River fishing
A slightly different picture is observed in the river. Here both small fish and large ides live in schools. The only difference is the size of the jamb. Trophy specimens usually swim in quantities of 2-3 pieces. As soon as you managed to catch an ide with a spinning rod, you should repeat the cast to the same point. Within 5-15 minutes you can pull out several fish. After this, the flock will prefer to move. Then the angler will again have to look for active ide. It is futile to wait for this representative of the ichthyofauna in one place. However, it is imperative to remember the catchable water area. Next year there will be a good bite here again. A boat is required on rivers with strong currents. This need is due to the fact that fast water greatly changes the trajectory of the wiring. And guiding the spoon in the middle layers perpendicular to the direction of the current is problematic. The swimming device allows you to cast both across the water flow and under drift. The bite on the river depends on weather factors. The optimal conditions for ulcer fishing are sunny weather and slight ripples on the surface of the water.
Fishing on a feeder
In autumn, ide likes to go out into vast shallow waters, as well as places with slow and reverse currents. In such places, the water is clear and the wary ide will not allow you to come close, so the feeder will be just right. It is good to use steamed rolled oats with peas and wheat flour as bait for the feeder You can add an animal ingredient in the form of chopped worms. It is better not to mix maggots with plant components, but to use them live, placed in a special feeder.
You can feed the fishing spot with any mixtures. The main thing is that the composition of the bait scattered and placed in the feeder is in harmony with each other. It’s even better if the bait also includes the component that is used in the bait.
In late autumn, ide feeds less. Therefore, it is better not to overdo it with bait , since fishing can turn into a charity dinner for the ide. The ide moves around the reservoir a lot and even at the peak of its activity it can leave the feeding place, but then it will definitely return, you just need patience.
Fishing in the fall on an ide feeder is most effective in the morning and evening hours. But it happens that ide readily bites during the day when the weather is calm.
On a feeder rod, you should use the softest possible tip. Which can be changed to a stiffer one in strong winds. The bite of the ide is sharp and short-lived, so you must always be on guard, as the ide, sensing something is wrong, immediately throws the bait. The hooking of the ide should be vigorous and timely, but not in such a way that it will simply tear its lip.
When fished, the ide resists desperately. Therefore, in this process, there is no need to pull it too quickly and straight to the shore. This very often results in a line break or a broken hook. This is where a good rod, a reel with a tuned drag and the skill of the angler come into play. The main thing is not to let the ide go behind obstacles in the water. And in open water, gradually tire him out. A landing net is extremely necessary when removing from the water.
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Technique for catching ide with a spinning rod
When catching ide with a spinning rod, the wiring of rotating and oscillating spoons is carried out at the slowest speed, to the point of failure of the bait. Usually this fish has time to try the bait twice when retrieving. The first touch is felt as a light “tap” or a slight tug. After this, the spinner needs to continue retrieving even more slowly.
If the ide does not attack the bait again, you should make a second cast to this fishing point.
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